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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:25 am    Post subject: The Necromium EQ Hall of Shame Reply with quote

So here's what I've found thus far while looking for stuff that's out of whack. Right now nothing's been done on these, but since the "Armory"-style webpage isn't going to happen (if the post being deleted wasn't enough of a hint, I'll say it directly: not going to happen), here's some tidbits of what's out there. What to do with it, and the people with it, is still up for discussion. Here are the nine worst characters we could find.

Character 1:
Code:
Item 1: "Talk about your nice def" mantel
Object Attributes:  not donatable, invisible, blessed, ANTI-GOOD, ANTI-MAGE,
ANTI-CLERIC, ANTI-WARRIOR, not sellable, min-tweak
Weight:  8.0 lbs      Value: 13500 coins
It can be worn on your body.
You must be at least level 33 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +9.1%.
This object will RAISE your DAMROLL by 12.0,
                 RAISE your HIT POINTS by 29.

Item 2: "Wow nice tweak, I don't remember those loading!" lords legs
Object Attributes:  invisible, magical, ANTI-MAGE, ANTI-CLERIC, ANTI-WARRIOR
Weight:  18.0 lbs      Value: 1500 coins
It can be worn covering your legs.
You must be at least level 26 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +4.8%.
This object will RAISE your HIT POINTS by 42,
                 RAISE your DAMROLL by 8.0.

Item 3: "Huh.  Is that possible?" claws
Object Attributes:  invisible, not removable, ANTI-GOOD, ANTI-MAGE,
ANTI-CLERIC, min-tweak
Weight:  2.2 lbs      Value: 0 coins
It can be worn on your hands.
You must be at least level 31 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +1.3%.
This object will RAISE your HIT POINTS by 11,
                 RAISE your ATTACK by 3.0%,
                 RAISE your DAMROLL by 3.0.

Item 4: "Wow that maxtweaked like everywhere!" granite arms
Object Attributes:  invisible, ANTI-MAGE, ANTI-CLERIC
Weight:  10.0 lbs      Value: 1000 coins
It can be worn covering your arms.
You must be at least level 20 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +4.0%.
It also absorbs 5 damage from your opponent's attack.
This object will INCREASE your level of strength by 1,
                 INCREASE your level of dexterity by 1,
                 RAISE your ATTACK by 5.0%,
                 RAISE your DAMROLL by 5.0.

Item 5: "I wish I had a 6.6def lords shield!" lords shield
Object Attributes:  invisible, magical, ANTI-GOOD, ANTI-MAGE, ANTI-CLERIC
Weight:  50.0 lbs      Value: 3500 coins
It can be worn as a shield.
You must be at least level 25 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +6.6%.
This object will RAISE your DAMROLL by 9.0,
                 RAISE your HIT POINTS by 60.

Item 6: "Is that ft?" billaro
Object Attributes:  invisible, blessed, ANTI-MAGE, ANTI-CLERIC, min-tweak
Weight:  10.0 lbs      Value: 6500 coins
It can be worn about your body.
You must be at least level 27 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +6.4%.
This object will RAISE your HIT POINTS by 40,
                 RAISE your DAMROLL by 7.0.

Item 7: "At least you only have one?" bob bracer
Object Attributes:  invisible, ANTI-MAGE, min-tweak
Weight:  5.0 lbs      Value: 10000 coins
It can be worn around your wrist.
You must be at least level 33 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +1.2%.
This object will RAISE your ATTACK by 3.0%,
                 RAISE your DAMROLL by 2.0,
                 RAISE your HIT POINTS by 12,
                 RAISE your MANA by 11.

Item 8: "Oh, nevermind" bob bracer
Object Attributes:  invisible, ANTI-MAGE, min-tweak
Weight:  5.0 lbs      Value: 10000 coins
It can be worn around your wrist.
You must be at least level 33 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +1.2%.
This object will RAISE your ATTACK by 3.0%,
                 RAISE your DAMROLL by 2.0,
                 RAISE your HIT POINTS by 11,
                 RAISE your MANA by 8.

Item 9: "The 12dr uptweak enchanted" 1h granite club
Object Attributes:  ANTI-MAGE, enchanted
Weight:  15.0 lbs      Value: 400 coins
It can be worn as a wielded weapon.
You must be at least level 24 to equip this item.
This weapon has damage dice of '7D8'.  Average damage: 31.5
This object will RAISE your ATTACK by 8.0%,
                 RAISE your DAMROLL by 38.0,
                 INCREASE your level of dispel magic by 6.

Item 10: "When did deceit orbs have hp?" deceit orb
Object Attributes:  invisible, magical, ANTI-MAGE, ANTI-CLERIC, ANTI-WARRIOR,
not sellable
Weight:  2.0 lbs      Value: 450 coins
It can be worn as a held item.
You must be at least level 22 to equip this item.
This object will RAISE your HIT POINTS by 20,
                 RAISE your ATTACK by 3.0%,
                 RAISE your DAMROLL by 3.0.

Item 11: "Just to top it all off" radiant
Object Attributes:  invisible, magical, ANTI-GOOD, ANTI-MAGE, ANTI-CLERIC,
not sellable
Weight:  20.0 lbs      Value: 3000 coins
It can be worn as a shield.
You must be at least level 33 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +3.6%.
It also absorbs 2 damage from your opponent's attack.
This object will RAISE your ATTACK by 13.0%,
                 RAISE your DAMROLL by 10.0.



Character 2:
Code:
Item 1: "Wow, Sir Real loved you!" sir real helm
Object Attributes:  not donatable, invisible, not removable, ANTI-MAGE,
ANTI-CLERIC, ANTI-THIEF, not sellable
Weight:  12.0 lbs      Value: 7000 coins
It can be worn on your head.
You must be at least level 26 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +6.3%.
This object will RAISE your DAMROLL by 7.5,
                 RAISE your ATTACK by 7.0%,
                 RAISE your HIT POINTS by 21,
                 INCREASE your level of berserk by 2.

Item 2: "Wow, SIX absorb?  Damn, lucky duck!" granite arms
Object Attributes:  invisible, ANTI-MAGE, ANTI-CLERIC
Weight:  10.0 lbs      Value: 1000 coins
It can be worn covering your arms.
You must be at least level 20 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +4.0%.
It also absorbs 6 damage from your opponent's attack.
This object will INCREASE your level of strength by 1,
                 INCREASE your level of dexterity by 1,
                 RAISE your ATTACK by 5.0%,
                 RAISE your DAMROLL by 5.0.

Item 3: "And now a six def lords shield?  Very lucky!" lords shield
Object Attributes:  invisible, magical, ANTI-GOOD, ANTI-MAGE, ANTI-CLERIC
Weight:  50.0 lbs      Value: 3500 coins
It can be worn as a shield.
You must be at least level 25 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +6.0%.
This object will RAISE your DAMROLL by 9.0,
                 RAISE your HIT POINTS by 57.

Item 4: "When was jorm scale 7dr 40hp min-tweak?" scale
Object Attributes:  invisible, ANTI-GOOD, ANTI-NEUTRAL, ANTI-MAGE, ANTI-CLERIC,
ANTI-THIEF, min-tweak
Weight:  8.0 lbs      Value: 0 coins
It can be worn about your body.
You must be at least level 31 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +5.5%.
This object will RAISE your HIT POINTS by 45,
                 RAISE your DAMROLL by 8.0.

Item 4: "Not another one of these..." bob bracer
Object Attributes:  invisible, ANTI-MAGE, min-tweak
Weight:  5.0 lbs      Value: 10000 coins
It can be worn around your wrist.
You must be at least level 33 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +1.2%.
This object will RAISE your ATTACK by 3.0%,
                 RAISE your DAMROLL by 2.0,
                 RAISE your HIT POINTS by 13,
                 RAISE your MANA by 9.

Item 5: "Uhh...again?" bob bracer
Object Attributes:  invisible, ANTI-MAGE, min-tweak
Weight:  4.9 lbs      Value: 10000 coins
It can be worn around your wrist.
You must be at least level 33 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +1.2%.
This object will RAISE your ATTACK by 3.0%,
                 RAISE your DAMROLL by 2.0,
                 RAISE your HIT POINTS by 13,
                 RAISE your MANA by 10.

Item 6: "When 12d6 paingivers were out there they were claimed to be legal...so 14d5 is too?" 1h paingiver
Object Attributes:  magical, ANTI-NEUTRAL, ANTI-MAGE, ANTI-CLERIC, ANTI-THIEF
Weight:  20.0 lbs      Value: 3500 coins
It can be worn as a wielded weapon.
You must be at least level 30 to equip this item.
This weapon has damage dice of '14D5'.  Average damage: 42.0
This object will RAISE your ATTACK by 7.0%,
                 RAISE your DAMROLL by 35.0.

Item 7: "Wouldn't I have heard about this loading?" lords mask
Object Attributes:  hums, invisible, magical, ANTI-GOOD, ANTI-NEUTRAL,
not sellable
Weight:  1.0 lbs      Value: 2500 coins
It can be worn as a held item.
You must be at least level 1 to equip this item.
This object will RAISE your DAMROLL by 8.0,
                 LOWER your HIT POINTS by 22.


Character 3:
Code:
Item 1: "The !tweak on this one...5/4?  Really?" machs
Object Attributes:  invisible, not removable, ANTI-GOOD, ANTI-NEUTRAL,
ANTI-MAGE, ANTI-CLERIC, ANTI-WARRIOR, will not tweak
Weight:  0.1 lbs      Value: 0 coins
It can be worn surrounding your body.
You must be at least level 31 to equip this item.
This object will RAISE your DAMROLL by 4.0,
                 RAISE your ATTACK by 5.0%,
                 RAISE your DAMAGE VS GOOD by 1.

Item 2: "Wow I wish I ran this when it was !tweak!" icy pun
Object Attributes:  invisible, ANTI-MAGE, not sellable, will not tweak
Weight:  0.7 lbs      Value: 4500 coins
It can be worn on your finger.
You must be at least level 66 to equip this item.
It also absorbs 2 damage from your opponent's attack.
This object will RAISE your DAMROLL by 2.0,
                 RAISE your ATTACK by 2.0%,
                 INCREASE your RESISTANCE TO FIRE by 2 points.

Item 3: "The famous !tweak 3dr redwood" redwood
Object Attributes:  invisible, will not tweak
Weight:  0.2 lbs      Value: 50 coins
It can be worn on your finger.
You must be at least level 1 to equip this item.
This object will RAISE your DAMROLL by 3.0.

Item 4: "The lord of assassins just liked him" ammy
Object Attributes:  invisible, magical, ANTI-MAGE, ANTI-CLERIC, ANTI-WARRIOR,
will not tweak
Weight:  2.5 lbs      Value: 4500 coins
It can be worn around your neck.
You must be at least level 28 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +0.6%.
This object will RAISE your DAMROLL by 3.0,
                 RAISE your HIT POINTS by 17.

Item 5: "When were mantels 11dr 30hp mintweak?" mantel
Object Attributes:  not donatable, invisible, blessed, ANTI-GOOD, ANTI-MAGE,
ANTI-CLERIC, ANTI-WARRIOR, not sellable, min-tweak
Weight:  8.0 lbs      Value: 13500 coins
It can be worn on your body.
You must be at least level 33 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +7.6%.
This object will RAISE your DAMROLL by 11.3,
                 RAISE your HIT POINTS by 31.

Item 6: "What a nice tweak!" lords helm
Object Attributes:  invisible, magical, ANTI-MAGE, ANTI-CLERIC, ANTI-WARRIOR
Weight:  10.0 lbs      Value: 3500 coins
It can be worn on your head.
You must be at least level 26 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +4.6%.
It also absorbs 2 damage from your opponent's attack.
This object will RAISE your HIT POINTS by 35,
                 RAISE your DAMROLL by 8.0.

Item 7: "When did lords shields have abs?" lords shield
Object Attributes:  invisible, magical, ANTI-GOOD, ANTI-MAGE, ANTI-CLERIC
Weight:  50.0 lbs      Value: 3500 coins
It can be worn as a shield.
You must be at least level 25 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +5.2%.
It also absorbs 3 damage from your opponent's attack.
This object will RAISE your DAMROLL by 9.0,
                 RAISE your HIT POINTS by 57.

Item 8: "I don't recall billaros being 6dr 36hp min-tweak" billaro
Object Attributes:  invisible, blessed, ANTI-MAGE, ANTI-CLERIC, min-tweak
Weight:  10.0 lbs      Value: 6500 coins
It can be worn about your body.
You must be at least level 27 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +4.0%.
This object will RAISE your HIT POINTS by 41,
                 RAISE your DAMROLL by 7.0.

Item 9: "This would have made my rtm mode wayyy better" gith bracelet
Object Attributes:  invisible, ANTI-MAGE, ANTI-WARRIOR, will not tweak
Weight:  2.5 lbs      Value: 3000 coins
It can be worn around your wrist.
You must be at least level 25 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +1.0%.
This object will RAISE your ATTACK by 2.0%,
                 RAISE your DAMROLL by 2.0,
                 INCREASE your RESISTANCE TO MAGIC by 8 points.

Item 10: "Oh, well, this is surely legit" hawkblade
Object Attributes:  invisible, magical, blessed, ANTI-MAGE, ANTI-CLERIC,
ANTI-WARRIOR, has ancient powers, min-tweak
Weight:  17.0 lbs      Value: 6500 coins
It can be worn as a wielded weapon.
You must be at least level 60 to equip this item.
This weapon has damage dice of '9D6'.  Average damage: 31.5
This weapon can be used to backstab.
This weapon has a 10% chance to pierce your opponent's armor.
This object will RAISE your ATTACK by 9.0%,
                 RAISE your DAMROLL by 8.0.

Item 11: "I wish I ran this when it was 4/3 !tweak!" deceit orb
Object Attributes:  invisible, ANTI-GOOD, ANTI-MAGE, ANTI-CLERIC, ANTI-WARRIOR,
will not tweak
Weight:  6.0 lbs      Value: 3500 coins
It can be worn as a held item.
You must be at least level 31 to equip this item.
This STAFF will cast mass fly.
It has 10 maximum charges with 5 remaining.
This object will RAISE your ATTACK by 4.0%,
                 RAISE your DAMROLL by 3.0.


Character 4:
Removed cause it's a theoretically possible tweak, but likely not, as it's owned by someone who owns one of the first 3 characters.

Character 5:
Code:
Item 1: "Damn, good thing Folare's back!" token
You become more knowledgeable about a token of random chance.
Object Attributes:  hums, not able to be made invisible, magical
Weight:  5.0 lbs      Value: 13 coins
It can be worn as a held item.
You must be at least level 16 to equip this item.
This object will RAISE your HIT POINTS by 19,
                 RAISE your MANA by 24.

Item 2: "Lucky bangle!" bangle
Object Attributes:  hums, invisible, magical, ANTI-CLERIC, ANTI-THIEF,
ANTI-WARRIOR, min-tweak
Weight:  2.5 lbs      Value: 1000 coins
It can be worn around your wrist.
You must be at least level 26 to equip this item.
This object will RAISE your HIT POINTS by 15,
                 RAISE your MANA by 14.

Item 3: "Okay that's just not right" bangle
Object Attributes:  hums, invisible, magical, ANTI-CLERIC, ANTI-THIEF,
ANTI-WARRIOR, min-tweak
Weight:  2.5 lbs      Value: 1000 coins
It can be worn around your wrist.
You must be at least level 26 to equip this item.
This object will RAISE your HIT POINTS by 14,
                 RAISE your MANA by 15.

Item 4: "Well I don't know about the rest, but THAT'S legit for sure!" xan shield
Object Attributes:  invisible, ANTI-THIEF, ANTI-WARRIOR
Weight:  12.5 lbs      Value: 5500 coins
It can be worn as a shield.
You must be at least level 25 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +1.2%.
It also absorbs 2 damage from your opponent's attack.
This object will RAISE your HIT POINTS by 59,
                 RAISE your MANA by 59.

Item 5: "13hp 40mana norm huh?" abyss arms
Object Attributes:  not donatable, invisible, ANTI-CLERIC, ANTI-THIEF,
ANTI-WARRIOR, min-tweak
Weight:  16.0 lbs      Value: 0 coins
It can be worn covering your arms.
You must be at least level 32 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +2.8%.
This object will RAISE your HIT POINTS by 18,
                 RAISE your MANA by 45.


Character 6:
Code:
Item 1: "This rings a bell..." token
You become more knowledgeable about a token of random chance.
Object Attributes:  hums, not able to be made invisible, magical
Weight:  5.0 lbs      Value: 13 coins
It can be worn as a held item.
You must be at least level 16 to equip this item.
This object will RAISE your HIT POINTS by 19,
                 RAISE your MANA by 24.

Item 2: "Well now it's SURELY coincidence" bangle
Object Attributes:  hums, invisible, magical, ANTI-CLERIC, ANTI-THIEF,
ANTI-WARRIOR, min-tweak
Weight:  2.5 lbs      Value: 1000 coins
It can be worn around your wrist.
You must be at least level 26 to equip this item.
This object will RAISE your HIT POINTS by 15,
                 RAISE your MANA by 14.

Item 3: "Umm...still possible?" bangle
Object Attributes:  hums, invisible, magical, ANTI-CLERIC, ANTI-THIEF,
ANTI-WARRIOR, min-tweak
Weight:  2.5 lbs      Value: 1000 coins
It can be worn around your wrist.
You must be at least level 26 to equip this item.
This object will RAISE your HIT POINTS by 14,
                 RAISE your MANA by 15.

Item 4: "Okay screw this that's just mean" xan shield
Object Attributes:  invisible, ANTI-THIEF, ANTI-WARRIOR
Weight:  12.5 lbs      Value: 5500 coins
It can be worn as a shield.
You must be at least level 25 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +1.2%.
It also absorbs 2 damage from your opponent's attack.
This object will RAISE your HIT POINTS by 59,
                 RAISE your MANA by 59.


Character 7:
Code:
Item 1: "Folare sure was nice to these guys" token
Object Attributes:  hums, not able to be made invisible, magical
Weight:  5.0 lbs      Value: 13 coins
It can be worn as a held item.
You must be at least level 19 to equip this item.
This object will DECREASE your RESISTANCE TO COLD by 1 point,
                 RAISE your HIT POINTS by 15,
                 RAISE your MANA by 27.

Item 2: "These guys got lucky in abyss with min-tweak" abyss arms
Object Attributes:  not donatable, invisible, ANTI-CLERIC, ANTI-THIEF,
ANTI-WARRIOR, min-tweak
Weight:  16.0 lbs      Value: 0 coins
It can be worn covering your arms.
You must be at least level 32 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +1.7%.
This object will RAISE your HIT POINTS by 17,
                 RAISE your MANA by 40.


Character 8:
Code:
Item 1: "I wish THAT was norm!" armband
Object Attributes:  invisible, magical
Weight:  1.0 lbs      Value: 0 coins
It can be worn covering your arms.
You must be at least level 1 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +1.7%.
This object will INCREASE your RESISTANCE TO MAGIC by 8 points,
                 INCREASE experience gained by 99%.


(On "Character 8, Item 1": it was restrung so "armband" wasn't a keyword. The only keyword on it was "exp", so it couldn't be CPK-looted. Unfortunately the person also forgot to remove the "xxostrung<the imm's name>" here part)

Character 9:
Code:
Item 1: "Nice ammy!" ammy
Object Attributes:  invisible, magical, ANTI-MAGE, ANTI-CLERIC, ANTI-WARRIOR,
will not tweak
Weight:  2.5 lbs      Value: 4500 coins
It can be worn around your neck.
You must be at least level 28 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +0.6%.
This object will RAISE your DAMROLL by 3.0,
                 RAISE your HIT POINTS by 15,
                 INCREASE experience gained by 99%.

Item 2: "Aww, that's not fair!" ammy
Object Attributes:  invisible, magical, ANTI-MAGE, ANTI-CLERIC, ANTI-WARRIOR,
will not tweak
Weight:  2.5 lbs      Value: 4500 coins
It can be worn around your neck.
You must be at least level 28 to equip this item.
This item will increase your defense by +0.6%.
This object will RAISE your DAMROLL by 3.0,
                 RAISE your HIT POINTS by 15,
                 INCREASE experience gained by 99%.



Okay, so why did I post this? Because there's been talk lately of IMMs not being hard on cheating, or of cheating themselves. I worked to find this list with the help of many of the other IMMs, poring through the character sheets of some of the people we thought most blatantly seemed cheated. So we put together this list, to show, publicly, that we're not going to let it stand. Nothing has happened to these characters (and for those of them with IMMs, their IMMs), we are putting them out here, on display, first. Why? So you can see it, and not just see a cryptic INFO saying "there was some cheating". YOU can vote on what should happen.

So. What should happen? (Feel free to give responses to each of the 9 individually if you feel strongly on some vs. others)
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Delete all the items and give the people who did it a punishment. And if more is found that is completely cheater, delete it too.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Delete every piece of eq and gold from every character they own.

Also, reveal their names.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nod, I'd also like to know the names.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But yeah it shouldnt be out there through trade or cpk... so to keep it clean i guess it should be deleted.


I know its 1 or the other... its just a feeling Razz. and yes it should all be deleted...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tijgetje wrote:
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they work hard enough for the game and kinda deserve something.


So because they work very hard for the game they should be able to have ridiculous eq and an unfair advantage over everyone else in the game?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nod Hex I know and your right... but it's just a feeling about it... I dunno how to explain Razz. its a free game, if they had some extras that wouldnt be too much of an unbalance vs the rest i wouldnt mind...

but yeah it is, so.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it's okay as long as they don't CPK with it...

How about if they traded it, and put their cheated, imm-loaded, imm-tweaked gear out into the game? Is it still okay then? Cause if so, I'll let ya all know who my mort(s) is/are and I'm open for business! WoO!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Nike was trading a 27 mana token when he logged a few nights ago.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ancietus wrote:
So it's okay as long as they don't CPK with it...

How about if they traded it, and put their cheated, imm-loaded, imm-tweaked gear out into the game? Is it still okay then? Cause if so, I'll let ya all know who my mort(s) is/are and I'm open for business! WoO!



I didnt quote but edit my previous post.. silly me...
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But yeah it shouldnt be out there through trade or cpk...


I know that isnt happening so it should be removed, obviously.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Delete it all and their chars, obviously at least delete the chars who used the xp hacked items as they would probably have a hell of a lot of CP's which they gained through unfair means. Possible sitebans too.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eh, I've used cheater eq before, I never cheated to get it but I acquired it through trades and such, and I have given it to them imms and told them they can take care of it properly, but at that point in time there was nothing they could do so there was no point. This was before I took a sabbatical and I no longer have any cheat stuff, but still you can't punish the people that used cheater stuff because there is no way of knowing by what means they received it.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flak...trust me when I say that all of these people knowingly received it, knew what it was, knew where it came from, and was fully voluntary, in most cases getting it for free.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh I'm not dumb, I know that there are things that people have taken knowing that it was not legit, are you proposing that all of those people are punished? If so then I know that I received cheater eq and I know that the people that I have received it from aquired it not from their own cheating, but the cheating of others? Won't this just be a thread with no end?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As of right now, if you are not one of the characters listed on this post that I made, then you do not have to worry.

Yes there's a ton of cheater stuff out there, but the 9 characters listed are the only ones I'm concerned with right now.
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